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2 2017-10-08T00:28:12 <esotericnonsense> i'm trying to understand https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/OP_CHECKSIG
3 2017-10-08T00:29:16 <esotericnonsense> etotheipi's diagram seems pretty comprehensive but i'm confused with the OP_CODESEPERATOR stuff. in a 'standard' p2pkh case would SCRIPT_PART{1, 2, 4} just not exist
4 2017-10-08T00:30:42 <esotericnonsense> I can check this by just writing the code and trying to get a sig to verify, but I have no (present) need for that so it's a bit of an endeavour
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7 2017-10-08T00:36:25 <esotericnonsense> checksig is a crazy op, I see what people mean about calling it 'OP_DO_BITCOIN'
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23 2017-10-08T04:17:36 <arubi> esotericnonsense, luckily segwit fixes the crazy :)
24 2017-10-08T04:20:52 <arubi> you're correct that standard stuff don't use codesep. it's not very useful anyway unless you really wanna have two different sighashes in the same script
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118 2017-10-08T14:37:06 <esotericnonsense> yeah i guess i'm trying to figure out where exactly the script comes from in 'Step 4' because it seems a bit arbitrary to me
119 2017-10-08T14:37:33 <esotericnonsense> 'create subscript from last OP_CODESEP to end of script' in that example, i don't see how you wouldn't just have SCRIPT_PART4
120 2017-10-08T14:37:41 <esotericnonsense> (for the subscript)
121 2017-10-08T14:40:22 <esotericnonsense> either i'm misinterpreting Step 2, or it's just wrong
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123 2017-10-08T14:45:23 <esotericnonsense> aside from that I'd be interested to know why Step 8 is even done (obviously it's 'just the way OP_CHECKSIG works', but a justification for it, does it prevent an attack of some sort, is it only useful in conjunction with some OP_CODESEP stuff)
124 2017-10-08T14:46:37 <arubi> script in part 4 comes from PrevTx.PkScript
125 2017-10-08T14:47:00 <arubi> it's the subscript made out of the last executed codesep and onwards
126 2017-10-08T14:47:14 <esotericnonsense> ah, that's the crucial bit
127 2017-10-08T14:47:17 <esotericnonsense> last _executed_ codesep
128 2017-10-08T14:47:18 <arubi> (without the remaining codeseps)
129 2017-10-08T14:49:31 <esotericnonsense> yeah that makes sense to me now. it's just that I was thinking 'last codesep (i.e. third one in that diagram)' rather than 'last executed codesep (second one in that diag)'
130 2017-10-08T14:50:59 <arubi> step 8 is.. codeseps are pretty much useless right now in bitcoin (I've seen maybe one good use). the idea with checksig only covering a part of the executed script (by using codeseps to separate the areas a checksig covers) is a very cool idea, but it doesn't really work because you always sign the prevtxs' txid in the input
131 2017-10-08T14:51:34 <arubi> and that prevtx had the whole scriptpubkey in it (in the output itself)
132 2017-10-08T14:51:45 <arubi> so you always sign a hash of the entire script anyway
133 2017-10-08T14:52:42 <arubi> if you didn't have to sign an input txid, you could do lots of interesting things, but alas :)
134 2017-10-08T14:52:47 <esotericnonsense> yeah
135 2017-10-08T14:53:14 <esotericnonsense> thanks arubi
136 2017-10-08T14:53:20 <arubi> yw
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139 2017-10-08T15:00:22 <grubles> so i'm getting some errors running the automated gitian builder script
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141 2017-10-08T15:01:51 <grubles> https://0bin.net/paste/JJ3XkfNiWqjGpgvw#SGNCITeDC6vclWkFdirVZYfpJ1JGPIBjPRZo12zj4eS
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143 2017-10-08T15:09:19 <arubi> is that the file install.log? seems like apt-get failed?
144 2017-10-08T15:09:46 <grubles> no that's just the stdout that the script printed out
145 2017-10-08T15:10:40 <arubi> not sure, I never tried the gitian build but fwiw it seems it failed with `apt-get update`
146 2017-10-08T15:11:14 <arubi> maybe if you can get that file with the output, looks like it's writing to 'var/install.log' but I don't know if it's on the host or guest
147 2017-10-08T15:19:18 <grubles> hm
148 2017-10-08T15:23:54 <grubles> lxc-ls shows no containers
149 2017-10-08T15:24:42 <grubles> and install.log does not exist on the host
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151 2017-10-08T15:28:37 <arubi> there was a time when apt-get'ing from ubuntu repositories was flaky. sometimes it would hang for a long time before it starts downloading, sometimes it'd even just time out. I'm guessing it was geolocation related and some mirrors just sucked. maybe related.. the install.log file will have more info. if you can make gitian to `cat` that file, maybe the output will pass to the log you can see
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155 2017-10-08T15:45:32 <grubles> my guess is it's something qubes os related
156 2017-10-08T15:47:14 <esotericnonsense> the upstart errors look interesting, i haven't used gitian, do those come up normally
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175 2017-10-08T17:11:49 <grubles> esotericnonsense, not sure
176 2017-10-08T17:12:25 <grubles> arubi, when building the base vm image it is able to download all of the needed packages
177 2017-10-08T17:12:53 <grubles> harumph
178 2017-10-08T17:13:16 <arubi> grubles, my second guess is that the ubuntu image uses ipv6 and routing network out of the container somehow fails for ipv6
179 2017-10-08T17:13:36 <arubi> I had that happen locally with ubuntu VMs, unrelated to gitian, so maybe that's it..
180 2017-10-08T17:14:41 <grubles> maybe
181 2017-10-08T17:14:41 <arubi> the ubuntu image I used in a VM tried to reach the repositories on an ipv6 address, but nothing I use supports it
182 2017-10-08T17:16:14 <grubles> which image did you use
183 2017-10-08T17:16:28 <arubi> it was 16.04.03
184 2017-10-08T17:17:16 <grubles> i'm using trusty
185 2017-10-08T17:17:25 <grubles> which is...14.04 i think?
186 2017-10-08T17:18:03 <arubi> oh, it might do that too.. don't know
187 2017-10-08T17:18:40 <grubles> oh wait
188 2017-10-08T17:18:47 <grubles> i wiped and started from scrach
189 2017-10-08T17:18:51 <grubles> scratch rather
190 2017-10-08T17:19:27 <grubles> the build script can't locate python-vm-builder
191 2017-10-08T17:19:29 <grubles> but i installed it...
192 2017-10-08T17:19:33 <arubi> hm
193 2017-10-08T17:23:22 <grubles> oh that's just the script attempting to apt-get it
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198 2017-10-08T17:58:07 <grubles> hm same error
199 2017-10-08T17:59:20 <arubi> grubles, my IT experience says "it's DNS"
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204 2017-10-08T18:02:57 <grubles> yeah could be
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206 2017-10-08T18:05:01 <esotericnonsense> it's always DNS
207 2017-10-08T18:05:55 <arubi> every. time.
208 2017-10-08T18:06:08 <grubles> lol
209 2017-10-08T18:06:28 <grubles> i'm not familiar enough with lxc to test if that's the issue
210 2017-10-08T18:07:07 <arubi> if you can make it ping something like www.google.com then you'll know if it can resolve it or not
211 2017-10-08T18:07:21 <esotericnonsense> right or just dig inside the container
212 2017-10-08T18:07:30 <arubi> but if you can do that, it's better to just make it `cat /path/to/install.log`
213 2017-10-08T18:07:34 <grubles> well that's the thing
214 2017-10-08T18:07:41 <grubles> it's like it doesn't create the container
215 2017-10-08T18:07:44 <grubles> lxc-ls shows nothing
216 2017-10-08T18:07:52 <esotericnonsense> grubles: lxc-ls -f? (is it -f?)
217 2017-10-08T18:08:00 <esotericnonsense> to show all containers started or otherwise
218 2017-10-08T18:08:02 <grubles> -f shows nothing as well
219 2017-10-08T18:08:05 <esotericnonsense> it's been a while since I played with lxc
220 2017-10-08T18:08:10 <esotericnonsense> hm
221 2017-10-08T18:08:13 <arubi> maybe it terminates if the container ends up with an error?
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223 2017-10-08T18:09:49 <arubi> I don't know how lxc works in depth, I use lxc in qemu but it's all abstracted with beautiful gui. dockers do that though, if one of the steps it's doing at setup errors, it just terminates
224 2017-10-08T18:09:58 <arubi> er, in proxmox*
225 2017-10-08T18:10:06 <grubles> terminates as in deletes?
226 2017-10-08T18:10:11 <grubles> or otherwise is removed
227 2017-10-08T18:10:23 <esotericnonsense> there's a place where your lxc config lives, filesystems exist, etc
228 2017-10-08T18:10:29 <esotericnonsense> probably /var/lib/lxc or something like that
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230 2017-10-08T18:10:53 <arubi> for the dockers the intermediate states are kept
231 2017-10-08T18:10:56 <esotericnonsense> if you have a container name or any useful string or whatever you could just `find / -name="thing"` on the root fs
232 2017-10-08T18:11:22 <grubles> /var/lib/lxc/gitian/gitian.log exists
233 2017-10-08T18:11:24 <grubles> but is empty
234 2017-10-08T18:11:44 <esotericnonsense> I should set up lxc again, I blew away my containers when I sold my old machine, this one is seeming like a keeper
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236 2017-10-08T18:12:41 <arubi> grubles, isn't the container executing a bunch of scripts pushed in by the host?
237 2017-10-08T18:13:11 <arubi> maybe you could just add a line `cat .../install.log` right after the apt-get update line and run again
238 2017-10-08T18:16:31 <grubles> oh wait
239 2017-10-08T18:16:40 <grubles> heh i think i found the install.log
240 2017-10-08T18:17:33 <arubi> oh cool
241 2017-10-08T18:17:55 <grubles> https://0bin.net/paste/XDKUSc2iDNqFlOXE#LVlS+5-6mWXigy1ejcle+nKKQ7u9TGGIKEbHj69pd1U
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243 2017-10-08T18:18:50 <esotericnonsense> lol.
244 2017-10-08T18:18:57 <grubles> 0:-)
245 2017-10-08T18:19:02 <arubi> yea so Unable to connect to 10.0.2.2:3142 :)
246 2017-10-08T18:19:11 <grubles> but where does 10.0.2.2 come from...
247 2017-10-08T18:19:19 <esotericnonsense> it looks like some sort of local package cache to me
248 2017-10-08T18:19:25 <arubi> probably expecting an apt-cache server there
249 2017-10-08T18:19:27 <arubi> or a router
250 2017-10-08T18:19:31 <arubi> \proxy
251 2017-10-08T18:19:35 <esotericnonsense> yeah
252 2017-10-08T18:19:47 <grubles> GITIAN_HOST_IP=10.0.3.2
253 2017-10-08T18:19:54 <grubles> LXC_GUEST_IP=10.0.3.5
254 2017-10-08T18:20:26 <arubi> then maybe these environmental variables aren't passed?
255 2017-10-08T18:20:27 <grubles> i think there's a typo somewhere
256 2017-10-08T18:20:30 <esotericnonsense> old link, but https://askubuntu.com/questions/161427/apt-cacher-wont-work-port-3142-blocked-how-to-open#225511
257 2017-10-08T18:20:39 <esotericnonsense> so 3142 looks related to apt cache
258 2017-10-08T18:21:34 <arubi> right, you normally set up a local apt-cache instance locally so all your vms \ containers \ dockers can use that instead of each fetching from the repos individually
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260 2017-10-08T18:24:55 <arubi> <arubi> I'm wondering if sources.list has 10.0.2.2 or resolv.conf somehow makes "repos.ubuntu.com" resolve to 10.0.2.2
261 2017-10-08T18:24:55 <arubi> <arubi> or it's some APT flag being passed, the possibilities are endless when you use repositories!
262 2017-10-08T18:25:08 <arubi> :)
263 2017-10-08T18:26:32 <esotericnonsense> system has been stable for a while now, time to reboot and enable VT and see if that breaks it
264 2017-10-08T18:26:36 * esotericnonsense crosses fingers
265 2017-10-08T18:27:12 <grubles> i don't know why it's trying 10.0.2.2 though when everything else is supposedly configured for a different subnet
266 2017-10-08T18:33:00 <grubles> ok i set br0 and guest ip to 10.0.2.x and now get a different error
267 2017-10-08T18:33:40 <grubles> https://0bin.net/paste/L5J-XnSi7DxbOWuo#zyUBIRBTbjHJAs1xd2uBV4ARpX6vrvGZnomVUbqjpuK
268 2017-10-08T18:35:17 <arubi> invalid option: --detach-sign
269 2017-10-08T18:35:25 <arubi> did you pass this at the wrong step?
270 2017-10-08T18:35:32 <grubles> nope
271 2017-10-08T18:36:05 <grubles> to build i run ./gitian-build.sh -b signer 0.15.0.1
272 2017-10-08T18:36:34 <esotericnonsense> my vague suspicion is that detach-sign is only available in newer versions of gpg but struggling to find refereces
273 2017-10-08T18:36:36 <esotericnonsense> references
274 2017-10-08T18:37:09 <arubi> I'm lost
275 2017-10-08T18:37:43 <esotericnonsense> trusty is old stuff right
276 2017-10-08T18:39:11 <grubles> the lxc host is also debian jessie
277 2017-10-08T18:39:14 <grubles> so also old
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