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5 2017-10-24T00:14:57 <BGL> why doesn't the bitcoin client even recognize the path to its previous installation, upgrading 14 to 15
6 2017-10-24T00:15:21 <BGL> and this upgrading utxo database for 30 plus minus isn't expected eitehr
7 2017-10-24T00:21:31 <esotericnonsense> dviola: right you can have ~infinite addresses (i imagine there's some very very large number that would break it)
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14 2017-10-24T01:07:30 <dviola> esotericnonsense: I see, thanks
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17 2017-10-24T01:17:00 <wxss> BGL, the utxo upgrade is expected, it is in the release notes
18 2017-10-24T01:20:35 <dviola> so if I can create infinite amount of addresses, what is the 100 addresses that some people refer to?
19 2017-10-24T01:24:15 <esotericnonsense> dviola: pre-HD wallets would create 100 keys on first load
20 2017-10-24T01:24:36 <esotericnonsense> dviola: if you backed up your wallet, the backup was only useful for those first 100 keys, if you created more you'd eventually need another backup
21 2017-10-24T01:24:47 <esotericnonsense> (which would have say, 200 or 300 keys in, e.g.)
22 2017-10-24T01:25:02 <esotericnonsense> this is not the case any more, newly created wallets use a seed.
23 2017-10-24T01:30:19 <dviola> esotericnonsense: I see, that makes sense, thanks
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36 2017-10-24T02:56:10 <nixbox> Hello everyone
37 2017-10-24T02:56:50 <nixbox> What is the best way to start with bitcoin development. I understand the basics of Bitcoin and the blockchain. Do you think writing test cases would be a good place to start?
38 2017-10-24T02:57:09 <nixbox> Can anyone give me some useful pointers?
39 2017-10-24T02:57:57 <nixbox> fyi, I have the repository setup, i also compiled everything from source and played around with "regtest" a little bit.
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120 2017-10-24T10:15:40 <dafuq> hello. trying to get a node going here
121 2017-10-24T10:16:09 <dafuq> it's going to take weeks(!). where is the bottleneck? my internet and hardware are decidely not the problem.
122 2017-10-24T10:16:34 <dafuq> is this normal? maybe there are a lot of people trying to set up nodes right now?
123 2017-10-24T10:16:50 <dafuq> just trying to understand where the bottleneck is
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128 2017-10-24T10:29:38 <Tykling> dafuq: sometimes you can speed it up by bootstrapping it with a blockchain from some point not too long ago
129 2017-10-24T10:31:09 <dafuq> Tykling, so what i'm wondering is, is it a known problem? from your response, it sounds like it?
130 2017-10-24T10:31:28 <Tykling> what is a known problem?
131 2017-10-24T10:32:35 <dafuq> i can't parse and process that question.
132 2017-10-24T10:32:57 <Tykling> you are asking if it is a known problem, can you elaborate which problem you mean
133 2017-10-24T10:33:38 <dafuq> how long it takes to DL the blockchain to run a node.
134 2017-10-24T10:34:13 <Tykling> yes that is known to take a long time
135 2017-10-24T10:34:33 <dafuq> i can DL a +1G movie in the time it takes to make a coffee
136 2017-10-24T10:34:41 <dafuq> so it's not my HW
137 2017-10-24T10:34:47 <dafuq> or net
138 2017-10-24T10:35:09 <dafuq> so where is the bottleneck? other nodes not uploading freely?
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190 2017-10-24T15:34:35 <LowKey> Hi, I getting an issue when compile qt wallet , with this error on pastebin : https://pastebin.com/GxYHYVup
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203 2017-10-24T16:58:32 <Anon_Help> is there anyone i can pm to report a critical vulnerability
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205 2017-10-24T17:04:02 <arubi> Anon_Help, I'd send to the 'security
206 2017-10-24T17:04:13 <arubi> email here: https://bitcoincore.org/en/contact/ with pgp for wumpus
207 2017-10-24T17:04:52 <Anon_Help> ok thx
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210 2017-10-24T17:29:13 <jb55> yo does something like this already exist before I continue working on it? https://github.com/jb55/btcs
211 2017-10-24T17:29:39 <jb55> I've seen basic parsers/compilers/decompilers but no evaluators
212 2017-10-24T17:29:56 <jb55> except in Haskoin but I wanted something a bit more lightweight
213 2017-10-24T17:33:53 <arubi> the evaluator is the most interesting part :) I would use it if you build it
214 2017-10-24T17:35:14 <arubi> it can be done with core, but not completely like checking if a transaction is actually valid now, eg a script could complete successfully but when you end up relaying the locktime could be preventing validity of the tx
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216 2017-10-24T17:35:50 <jb55> yeah I'm still thinking about how to handle that properly
217 2017-10-24T17:35:59 <arubi> parameters!
218 2017-10-24T17:36:04 <arubi> lots and lots of em
219 2017-10-24T17:36:07 <jb55> ideally it would be some pure state input
220 2017-10-24T17:36:26 <arubi> that's not too difficult with core already
221 2017-10-24T17:37:13 <arubi> I say not too difficult, it is difficult really
222 2017-10-24T17:37:22 <arubi> but not something you can't get used to hehe
223 2017-10-24T17:38:46 <arubi> something like what you're building is very useful even if you don't add script validation with context. don't let me discourage you. I'll probably use it
224 2017-10-24T17:39:43 <jb55> I'm not discouraged, I would find it useful even without context but I want that as well :)
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226 2017-10-24T17:44:34 <arubi> jb55, awesome. for my serializer, I also defined a few "make your life easy" templates, like plain numbers are treated as scriptnum (need to be valid), the character @ means minimal push, so something like @<hex pubkey> is converted to 0x21 0x<pubkey> (and longer pushes if needed), a 0x<hex> is just treated like literal serialized part of the script.. you're probably already on it, but just my pov :)
227 2017-10-24T17:46:42 <jb55> arubi: oh yes this is all planned :)
228 2017-10-24T17:47:28 <jb55> although I never thought of that minimal push thing... thanks
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230 2017-10-24T17:52:17 <jb55> arubi: if you have any other ideas for high level constructs let me know. I'm using this as a vehicle to learn bitcoin script so I'm not sure of all the patterns yet.
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234 2017-10-24T17:57:56 <arubi> jb55, not anything you wouldn't be able to pick up on quickly enough. script is very simple if you just accept reverse polish notation :)
235 2017-10-24T17:58:24 <arubi> will definitely try to help if you have questions, feel free to ask
236 2017-10-24T17:58:31 <jb55> will do, thanks
237 2017-10-24T18:00:54 <jb55> tokenizing <pubkey> is a fun test for now because I can basically run BIP examples as is
238 2017-10-24T18:01:59 <jb55> maybe there would be a mode that prompts for input at those points lol, variables eventually?? not a high prio right now though
239 2017-10-24T18:02:15 <arubi> that would be very cool
240 2017-10-24T18:02:20 <arubi> like an active shell
241 2017-10-24T18:02:38 <jb55> just want to make it really easy to test new ideas quickly
242 2017-10-24T18:03:09 <jb55> or for learning, since many scripts right now are pretty simple if your brain is wired for RPN
243 2017-10-24T18:03:58 <arubi> yea, and if you're not checking signatures, it's really just "run this from start to finish"
244 2017-10-24T18:05:04 <jb55> yeah I'm less interested in checking signatures, more interested in testing control flow for different inputs
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246 2017-10-24T18:05:36 <jb55> although that will ultimately sometimes depend on sigs so that will be in there of course :P
247 2017-10-24T18:06:24 <jb55> but more so along the lines of "if this sigcheck succeeds or fails what happens"
248 2017-10-24T18:06:28 <arubi> yes, and then you might want to look at op_codeseparator which will make your life interesting :)
249 2017-10-24T18:06:32 <jb55> as apposed to explicit sig checking
250 2017-10-24T18:06:57 <jb55> arubi: I've looked at that but I still don't know what it does
251 2017-10-24T18:07:24 <arubi> it's a marker for a checksig operation to mark "where from" to serialize a script for sighash
252 2017-10-24T18:07:46 <jb55> whoa
253 2017-10-24T18:07:49 <arubi> if there aren't any, it's at the start. as the script executes, if a codesep is met, the marker is now where it was
254 2017-10-24T18:08:04 <jb55> interesting...
255 2017-10-24T18:08:50 <arubi> it only makes a difference for checksig stuff, but yes it is interesting, and legacy checksigs vs. segwit checksigs serialize it differently :), segwit is much easier
256 2017-10-24T18:09:08 <arubi> really you could just be "segwit compatible only" and save a lot of headache
257 2017-10-24T18:11:40 <jb55> sounds reasonable
258 2017-10-24T18:16:00 <arubi> the behavior is pretty similar really, segwit serializes the codesep while legacy doesn't. segwit makes checksig ops a lot easier because of the better sighash scheme in bip143. there are so many interesting sighash types, and there are probably going to be more eventually, that implementing legacy just seems like a waste of time now
259 2017-10-24T18:19:59 <jb55> cool I'll check out that bip
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