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9 2017-11-01T00:50:54 <rupy> hi, can you use the old deprecated accounts with segwit transactions?
10 2017-11-01T00:56:06 <rupy> I'll expand on that, I don't think bitcoin will ever become anything more than store of value unless there is an internal accounting system.
11 2017-11-01T00:56:43 <rupy> Is anyone looking into accounts or is it still deprecated, and when will it be defunct/removed?
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17 2017-11-01T01:31:40 <achow101> rupy: accounts are a Bitcoin Core only thing, not a networkwide thing. there is no "internal accounting system" in Bitcoin at all
18 2017-11-01T01:31:56 <achow101> rupy: accounts should still work with segwit
19 2017-11-01T01:34:00 <rupy> ok, thx
20 2017-11-01T01:36:05 <rupy> do you know if any open-source alternative to the deprecated accounts in core exists yet?
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31 2017-11-01T02:44:37 <mlz> rupy, if you want "accounts", use fiat systems
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53 2017-11-01T03:51:08 <ghost43> if I call a method via JSON-RPC without any arguments but it expected some, is the common error code to expect -1 (RPC_MISC_ERROR)? I would just like to test via JSON-RPC whether a method is available in a somewhat generic way
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97 2017-11-01T07:18:10 <rupy> @mlz I'm aiming for off-chain microtransactions, and no I'm not going to use fiat for that.
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147 2017-11-01T14:09:27 <paulo_> hello
148 2017-11-01T14:09:41 <paulo_> why is the difficulty encoded in the blocks?
149 2017-11-01T14:09:57 <paulo_> can't the client calculate it based on the timestamps?
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160 2017-11-01T15:05:01 <achow101> paulo_: it allows clients to not have the full blockchain to be able to calculate whether a proof of work is valid
161 2017-11-01T15:05:15 <achow101> s/full blockchain/full headers chain/
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164 2017-11-01T15:06:28 <paulo_> okay. are there clients that not have the full headers chain?
165 2017-11-01T15:06:49 <paulo_> or is it more of a "just in case"?
166 2017-11-01T15:07:58 <achow101> it's more of a "just in case" I think
167 2017-11-01T15:08:11 <achow101> it doesn't hurt to have the target specified in the header
168 2017-11-01T15:08:25 <paulo_> okay, thank you.
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179 2017-11-01T15:53:01 <paulo_> why does the client need to keep both sides when the blockchain forks?
180 2017-11-01T15:53:16 <paulo_> why not use a rule, like follow the block with the smaller hash?
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223 2017-11-01T18:23:29 <kallewoof> paulo_: hash doesn't really matter, as long as it's below target. it keeps both because it has no idea which one miners will build on top of next
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263 2017-11-01T21:17:19 <ghost43> how can I force a blockchain reorg on regtest? e.g. can I somehow set assumeNOTvalid for a header? :D can't see any useful command for this in bitcoin-cli help
264 2017-11-01T21:20:46 <ghost43> I guess I could do this on the filesystem layer by making copies of the db... I'll do that for now, but would still be interested if there's a better way
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278 2017-11-01T22:47:56 <esotericnonsense> ghost43: sync up another client with stopatheight and mine from that height?
279 2017-11-01T22:48:05 <esotericnonsense> haven't tried it, just a guess
280 2017-11-01T22:50:17 <ghost43> esotericnonsense: yes, that might work. or I could just partition the network and do it that way. but it would be nice to be able to do it with a single node
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