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14 2017-11-04T01:35:10 <emers2n> Hey
15 2017-11-04T01:37:12 <emers2n> Does the channel include web apps?
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31 2017-11-04T03:28:33 <nicedice> hello! what do you guys think about hashgraph? This technology is proprietary, but the description is publicly available. Is this agreement protocol as good as its creators advertise? are there any flaws?
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121 2017-11-04T14:12:08 <nicedice> hello! what do you guys think about hashgraph? This technology is proprietary, but the description is publicly available. Is this consensus protocol as good as its creators advertise? are there any flaws? (asking here because hashgraph devlopers loudly proclaim that, basically, the PoW protocol is dead (which isn't believable).
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123 2017-11-04T14:13:28 <paulo_> hello
124 2017-11-04T14:13:33 <nicedice> hello
125 2017-11-04T14:13:34 <paulo_> in the source code, what is cs_main?
126 2017-11-04T14:14:09 <nicedice> oh, i'm here to ask questions myself ))
127 2017-11-04T14:14:16 <nicedice> I donno
128 2017-11-04T14:14:33 <paulo_> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/net_processing.cpp#L1257
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130 2017-11-04T14:19:34 <nicedice> you have to look for explanation in the code under #include's
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132 2017-11-04T14:19:46 <nicedice> as it seems to me
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135 2017-11-04T14:24:54 <RafieMY> hello
136 2017-11-04T14:25:59 <RafieMY> i had problem using Nicehash Miner, i cant finish benchmark cuz it always failed. Do u know how to fix it
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139 2017-11-04T14:26:59 <paulo_> hi
140 2017-11-04T14:27:56 <RafieMY> hi
141 2017-11-04T14:28:06 <paulo_> "There is no from address" - what does that mean?
142 2017-11-04T14:29:28 <arubi> paulo_, it's an answer to the question "how do I know which address sent me the coins"
143 2017-11-04T14:30:42 <paulo_> why can't we? isn't a transaction signed, therefore the public keys are the from addresses?
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145 2017-11-04T14:35:19 <arubi> a public key and signature on stack in the funding transaction doesn't tell you what the scriptpubkey was in the funding transaction. most of the times you can guess
146 2017-11-04T14:36:18 <arubi> s/funding/current
147 2017-11-04T14:36:31 <arubi> and some transactions don't show the pubkeys at all, say p2pk or multisig
148 2017-11-04T14:37:02 <paulo_> what are the advanta
149 2017-11-04T14:37:36 <paulo_> what are the advantages of tracking unspent transactions instead of keeping a database of address balances?
150 2017-11-04T14:38:19 <paulo_> let's say we transactions actually have from addresses and to addresses.
151 2017-11-04T14:38:39 <paulo_> *let's say transactions
152 2017-11-04T14:40:33 <arubi> well it doesn't sound like your database supports just arbitrary scripts, only defined scripts like ones that have addresses
153 2017-11-04T14:41:20 <paulo_> ahh that's true.
154 2017-11-04T14:44:11 <RafieMY> why my miner doesnt detect my graphic card ?
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156 2017-11-04T14:47:21 <RafieMY> babi babun bontot besa, taik hijau, muke mintak kaki, kaki kipas, muke taik
157 2017-11-04T14:47:36 <RafieMY> tetek gleber
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161 2017-11-04T15:00:04 <RafieMY> FREE Bitcoin --> https://plu.sh/3kg7v
162 2017-11-04T15:00:35 <paulo_> ugh.
163 2017-11-04T15:02:29 <RafieMY> see you got urself
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170 2017-11-04T15:37:59 <paulo_> hello
171 2017-11-04T15:38:07 <paulo_> would you know where ProcessNewBlockHeaders is defined?
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173 2017-11-04T16:15:46 <achow101> paulo_: validation.cpp
174 2017-11-04T16:15:50 <achow101> paulo_: use grep
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180 2017-11-04T17:18:58 <paulo_> is the block height encoded in the header?
181 2017-11-04T17:19:59 <arubi> that would've been so much better
182 2017-11-04T17:20:08 <arubi> but no
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191 2017-11-04T17:57:48 <paulo_> how is work defined again? the sum of the hashes?
192 2017-11-04T17:58:05 <paulo_> or the sum of the targets?
193 2017-11-04T17:59:57 <esotericnonsense> targets
194 2017-11-04T18:00:03 <paulo_> s/defined/calculated
195 2017-11-04T18:01:35 <paulo_> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/chainparams.cpp#L104
196 2017-11-04T18:01:55 <paulo_> I don't think the targets can sum to such a low hash...
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199 2017-11-04T18:03:56 <paulo_> oh wait, i think i got something wrong
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208 2017-11-04T18:21:12 <paulo_> it looks life a block's work is defined as 2^256/target. why is that?
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210 2017-11-04T18:21:30 <paulo_> *like
211 2017-11-04T18:22:02 <eck> to make the target fit into 256 bits
212 2017-11-04T18:22:15 <eck> how woudl you define it?
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216 2017-11-04T18:27:46 <paulo_> I think I understand now, it calculates the number of hashes (on average) required to calculate a hash lower than the target
217 2017-11-04T18:27:53 <paulo_> hence, it's called work
218 2017-11-04T18:29:11 <paulo_> yay math
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221 2017-11-04T18:35:04 <Sentineo> what is the base of that number here? consensus.nMinimumChainWork = uint256S("0x000000000000000000000000000000000000000000723d3581fe1bd55373540a");
222 2017-11-04T18:35:18 <Sentineo> on that line paulo_ pasted here?
223 2017-11-04T18:36:45 <paulo_> Sentineo: it's hexadecimal
224 2017-11-04T18:37:04 <paulo_> the work is calculated here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/chain.cpp#L120
225 2017-11-04T18:37:20 <paulo_> the work is summed here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/validation.cpp#L2671
226 2017-11-04T18:39:13 <arubi> ;;calc log([base 16 10 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000723d3581fe1bd55373540a])/log(2)
227 2017-11-04T18:39:14 <gribble> 86.8359126796
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230 2017-11-04T18:43:36 <Sentineo> I meant why that number, not base as mathematical base :D
231 2017-11-04T18:44:50 <arubi> it's how much work was done to mine the chain up to that point
232 2017-11-04T18:45:21 <arubi> more or less how many bitcoin hashes, hash256, were done by miners
233 2017-11-04T18:49:47 <arubi> Sentineo, if you follow debug.log, you can see log2_work increasing each time a block arrives. it's just counting that same number and displays the log2 of it like ^
234 2017-11-04T18:50:21 <Sentineo> yeah I saw that
235 2017-11-04T18:50:36 <arubi> not sure how accurate it it really is when we know asicboost was used, miners re-using work and all :)
236 2017-11-04T18:50:55 <Sentineo> ok so it seems that snippet of code is for some softfork activation, so making sure it has at least as much work as a the moment of definition makes sense
237 2017-11-04T18:51:32 <arubi> it makes sense because it's reality right, not technical
238 2017-11-04T18:51:43 <Sentineo> yep
239 2017-11-04T18:52:13 <Sentineo> first I though it is some technical - math thing ... than the question of course was why that number? :)
240 2017-11-04T18:53:23 <arubi> yea, chain work is pretty much the only thing that can't change even if reorgs are made, so we don't have to point at a block
241 2017-11-04T18:53:40 <arubi> just say, it's been this much work before this event. we all know it, it's obvious
242 2017-11-04T18:53:55 <Sentineo> yeah ... easy, compact, robust
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