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 70 2017-11-08T05:39:32  <JohnVonNeumann> good evening all, or morning, depending where you are, quick question, ive noticed there seems to be a migration away from using boost libs in the codebase, in particular with testing. Whats the reasoning? is it to keep imports low so code quality can be controlled?
 71 2017-11-08T05:41:05  <achow101> JohnVonNeumann: boost is a big and somewhat messy library. We are trying to avoid having dependencies on things which we cannot control or are hard for us to understand (e.g. really big libs like boost and openssl) because they can introduce major bugs and potentially even consensus bugs which are really bad
 72 2017-11-08T05:42:05  <achow101> in general it is also better to have less dependencies as that will reduce binary size and compile time
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 75 2017-11-08T05:44:15  <JohnVonNeumann> ty for explanation achow101, this makes sense, will it be a lot of refactoring or is boost's lib capaabilities only used for a handful of things?
 76 2017-11-08T05:44:49  <JohnVonNeumann> terrible wording on that, sorry
 77 2017-11-08T05:45:06  <achow101> JohnVonNeumann: boost is really only used for tests now. we aren't going through everything and nuking all boost yet. rather as things change we will slowly be removing boost when it is unnecessary
 78 2017-11-08T05:45:20  <achow101> well tests and a few other things. nothing consensus critical IIRC
 79 2017-11-08T05:45:40  <achow101> it is unlikely that we will be able to get rid of boost entirely though
 80 2017-11-08T05:45:48  <JohnVonNeumann> whys that?
 81 2017-11-08T05:46:15  <JohnVonNeumann> is there not a risk of creating a lot of maintenenace work by rolling our own libs instead of importing them?
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 83 2017-11-08T05:48:33  <achow101> we won't be rolling our own libs for most things. however a lot of things in boost eventually make their way into the std c++ lib so when they do, we replace the boost things with the std c++ version
 84 2017-11-08T05:48:58  <achow101> e.g. there's now a std bind, so boost bind calls are being replaced with std bind
 85 2017-11-08T05:50:39  <JohnVonNeumann> ahh ok, what do you mean by std bind? im pretty new to c++
 86 2017-11-08T05:50:58  <JohnVonNeumann> im happy to read resources instead of a full explan, if you have an recommendations
 87 2017-11-08T05:51:31  <achow101> there's a function call std::bind which is basically the same as boost::bind but in std c++
 88 2017-11-08T05:52:28  <JohnVonNeumann> ahh so basically just where and how we source it
 89 2017-11-08T05:52:32  <achow101> yes
 90 2017-11-08T05:52:37  <JohnVonNeumann> ok ty
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187 2017-11-08T10:54:05  <rafalcpp> hi, are there plans to fix Gitian to work again on Debian 9 host?
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199 2017-11-08T11:39:28  <wumpus> rafalcpp: if you get it to work, please submit a patch
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204 2017-11-08T11:42:48  <rafalcpp> wumpus: is anyone else working on it, I have some experience with Gitian, but not sure how to fix it. Any ideas?
205 2017-11-08T11:43:07  <wumpus> I don't think anyone else is working on it, no
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278 2017-11-08T18:32:46  <dviola> I decided not to prune, I'll get another hard drive to store everything
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287 2017-11-08T19:01:01  <iwkse> dviola: that's what I'm going to do as well. Move my blockchain to an internal HD (currently on HD USB)
288 2017-11-08T19:02:34  <dviola> iwkse: I see
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347 2017-11-08T23:09:31  <cluelessperson> Has anyone put thought into making sure the bitcoin network can survive an EMP ?
348 2017-11-08T23:10:02  <cluelessperson> For example, emergency relay systems
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