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77 2017-11-15T08:03:53 <kgc> Hi, does anyone know if you can sign raw segwit transaction using bitcoind rpc method signrawtransaction? I tried and got=64: non-mandatory-script-verify-flag (Witness program was passed an empty witness) (code -26)
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80 2017-11-15T08:04:26 <kgc> that is the error was thrown when I tried to broadcast it signing worked just fine
81 2017-11-15T08:04:40 <kgc> atleast no error was thrown
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113 2017-11-15T10:08:08 <txter> Are there any companies creating actual stock-exchanges using the blockchain? Some place where a company can do a purely digital IPO? I know NASDAQ etc. have been flirting a bit with blockchain technology but I've never heard anything come of it
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141 2017-11-15T12:50:23 <JackH> how can I dump privkey on segwit addresses? I get an error when doing dumpprivkey
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144 2017-11-15T12:56:17 <wumpus> JackH: you might want to ask in bitcoin-core-dev
145 2017-11-15T12:57:05 <JackH> ok
146 2017-11-15T12:57:28 <wumpus> (e.g. because segwit handling in the wallet is not finished yet)
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159 2017-11-15T14:10:25 <paulo_> hello
160 2017-11-15T14:10:36 <paulo_> does the bitcoin client exchange node its?
161 2017-11-15T14:10:40 <paulo_> *ips
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163 2017-11-15T14:24:16 <wumpus> paulo_: yes, using addr messages, node ips propagate through the network
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201 2017-11-15T17:11:40 <ren0v0> Hi, is it possible to get the number of coins in circulation without running a full node somehow?
202 2017-11-15T17:14:16 <arubi> not without trusting the source, that's the point really
203 2017-11-15T17:14:25 <arubi> it's 16680948.58625442 fwiw
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205 2017-11-15T17:17:19 <arubi> kgc, it's possible. what are you passing signrawtransaction?
206 2017-11-15T17:19:17 <ren0v0> arubi, what is the command? I'm checking RPC docs and can't find it
207 2017-11-15T17:19:39 <arubi> gettxoutsetinfo
208 2017-11-15T17:19:52 <arubi> it's gonna take a while to run
209 2017-11-15T17:20:29 <ren0v0> well i would never have found that :D
210 2017-11-15T17:20:39 <arubi> :)
211 2017-11-15T17:20:48 <ren0v0> So, some aggregator like coinmarketcap, they run 2000 nodes (one for each crypto), and then run this on each assuming they have this ability ?
212 2017-11-15T17:21:22 <arubi> not sure how they're set up really
213 2017-11-15T17:22:37 <ren0v0> but the theory is unless they're using a third party (probably are), then they need to run a node for each somehow
214 2017-11-15T17:22:58 <ren0v0> Is it possible to run bitcoin core with like 10mb of space used, and get this "untrusted" figure you provided?
215 2017-11-15T17:23:01 <arubi> or they're just multiplying the number of blocks by the block reward
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217 2017-11-15T17:23:04 <ren0v0> I assume that'll only run on a full chain ?
218 2017-11-15T17:23:23 <arubi> that figure comes from the utxo set, it's about 2-3gb
219 2017-11-15T17:23:25 <ren0v0> arubi, still that data needs to come from chain though right? and block reward changes so that doens't help much either
220 2017-11-15T17:23:44 <arubi> block reward changes in expected manner
221 2017-11-15T17:24:05 <arubi> this command really returns the amounts int utxos that is available
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223 2017-11-15T17:24:42 <arubi> for example I'm not sure if coinmarketcap counts amounts in op_return scripts or not
224 2017-11-15T17:25:05 <ren0v0> arubi, accuracy aside, its a huge amount of work to run 2000 nodes right?
225 2017-11-15T17:25:21 <ren0v0> i mean, that's not very lightweight :D
226 2017-11-15T17:25:35 <arubi> well, depends on how much compute you got :)
227 2017-11-15T17:25:36 <ren0v0> i very much doubt they are doing that, so i'm curious as to lightweight options
228 2017-11-15T17:26:36 <arubi> if you don't care about accuracy, just count the block rewards
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230 2017-11-15T17:29:49 <ren0v0> arubi, they change though right, so that seems a little "manual" ?
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232 2017-11-15T17:30:06 <ren0v0> or is there some way to do that from chain ?
233 2017-11-15T17:31:05 <arubi> change in what way? block rewards for block heights are known in advance
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235 2017-11-15T17:32:09 <ren0v0> sure, only 3 dates to remember for bitcoin
236 2017-11-15T17:32:21 <ren0v0> so far i mean
237 2017-11-15T17:32:25 <mmgen> ren0v0: of course they're not running 2000 nodes, they're just counting the block rewards
238 2017-11-15T17:32:32 <ren0v0> is this the case for 2000 other cryptos? seems like a massive headache
239 2017-11-15T17:32:52 <ren0v0> mmgen, clearly i'm being stupid then, how does this work for bitcoin for example ?
240 2017-11-15T17:33:09 <arubi> ;;calc 210000*50 + 210000*25 + ([blocks] % 210000)*12.5
241 2017-11-15T17:33:10 <gribble> 16681137.5
242 2017-11-15T17:33:21 <mmgen> ren0v0: the block reward schedule is part of the protocol
243 2017-11-15T17:33:35 <ren0v0> arubi, to get those "blocks" you still need to run a node right ?
244 2017-11-15T17:33:42 <mmgen> ren0v0: no
245 2017-11-15T17:33:44 <arubi> no
246 2017-11-15T17:34:07 <mmgen> ren0v0: you just need to know the rules of the protocol
247 2017-11-15T17:34:14 <mmgen> ren0v0: for the given coin
248 2017-11-15T17:34:21 <arubi> ren0v0, if you just want to count to "current height", it's pretty much enough to just check what the current height is. of course you could still be lied to. the only way to know for sure is to run a node yourself
249 2017-11-15T17:34:26 <ren0v0> so, need to have bitcoin-qt and run some command to find height ?
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251 2017-11-15T17:34:43 <mmgen> ren0v0: you can just get it from a block explorer
252 2017-11-15T17:34:48 <arubi> or you could just look online.. yea
253 2017-11-15T17:34:59 <ren0v0> i'm talking about removing reliance from any third-arty
254 2017-11-15T17:35:06 <mmgen> ren0v0: that's probably what those sites do
255 2017-11-15T17:35:06 <arubi> then you have to run a node. yes
256 2017-11-15T17:35:19 <ren0v0> who knows if there is a blockexplorer for "imabrandnewcointhatcameouttoday"
257 2017-11-15T17:35:26 <mmgen> ren0v0: no one's doing that, realistically
258 2017-11-15T17:35:53 <mmgen> ren0v0: every coin has a block explorer
259 2017-11-15T17:36:02 <ren0v0> with an API? that are reliable ?
260 2017-11-15T17:36:13 <ren0v0> these 2000 coins, they rely on 2000 third party sources?
261 2017-11-15T17:36:19 <ren0v0> seems pretty unreliable to me if you want to use their data
262 2017-11-15T17:36:56 <mmgen> ren0v0: most alts don't have enough value to warrant that kind of effort
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264 2017-11-15T17:37:46 <ren0v0> They have it for 1000 coins
265 2017-11-15T17:38:04 <ren0v0> i agree that it isn't worth the effort, so i'm wondering if i'm missing something :D
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329 2017-11-15T23:51:53 <dviola> I need to create a new wallet in bitcoin core
330 2017-11-15T23:52:02 <dviola> but I don't know what's the best method for that
331 2017-11-15T23:52:13 <dviola> rename wallet.dat and let core create a new one when starting it?
332 2017-11-15T23:52:48 <dviola> I want to send my BTC to a new wallet to redeem BTG
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