1 2017-11-24T00:11:38 <luke-jr> firelegend: it's not Bitcoin at all
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3 2017-11-24T00:11:45 <luke-jr> garit: he's talking about an altcoin
4 2017-11-24T00:11:56 <firelegend> luke-jr: Yes I used the word altcoin
5 2017-11-24T00:12:00 <firelegend> because it is
6 2017-11-24T00:12:30 <luke-jr> firelegend: anyhow, block compression would probably slow things at this point
7 2017-11-24T00:12:43 <luke-jr> firelegend: because nodes typically don't transmit entire blocks now, but only transaction lists
8 2017-11-24T00:12:46 <firelegend> Sad to hear that
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10 2017-11-24T00:12:56 <firelegend> But any plans at all?
11 2017-11-24T00:13:03 <luke-jr> firelegend: why bother when it doesn't help?
12 2017-11-24T00:13:22 <garit> He asks for other plans
13 2017-11-24T00:13:29 <luke-jr> to be clear, it doesn't help because bandwidth usage is ALREADY lower than using compression
14 2017-11-24T00:13:52 <firelegend> I think I have to agree there
15 2017-11-24T00:14:04 <firelegend> several years and only 150 gigabytes
16 2017-11-24T00:14:35 <luke-jr> well, true, IBD might benefit from compression
17 2017-11-24T00:14:42 <garit> anyway,one plan that might help - is using a high order servers (like big miners), to establish connection in a way that no miner is further than lets say 2 hops from others, and write down the most effective way to share blocks. Probably a few separate centralized servers just for this
18 2017-11-24T00:14:47 <luke-jr> 150 GB is a lot of data
19 2017-11-24T00:18:27 <firelegend> luke-jr: It could be worse. Just saying.
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21 2017-11-24T00:41:47 <luke-jr> firelegend: at the current rate, it will be much worse quite fast
22 2017-11-24T00:42:57 <firelegend> Any solutions? Or BIPs?
23 2017-11-24T00:43:02 <firelegend> Pruning?
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25 2017-11-24T01:39:50 <luke-jr> firelegend: there's not enough support to reduce the block size yet
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36 2017-11-24T02:48:20 <cluelessperson> So I'm starting to run into new store merchants that want to run a store that accepts bitcoin
37 2017-11-24T02:48:32 <cluelessperson> How do you recommend I set these people to support Bitcoin payments?
38 2017-11-24T02:49:22 <cluelessperson> My inclincation is to direct them to use a MASTER PRIVATE KEY (offline), and a PUBLIC key online to deterministically generate addresses to store in a regular web application database
39 2017-11-24T02:49:25 <cluelessperson> track orders
40 2017-11-24T02:49:34 <cluelessperson> but I don't know how to use Bitcoin Core to watch an account only.
41 2017-11-24T02:49:47 <cluelessperson> and I don't have the impression it's made for a large volume of addresses?
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55 2017-11-24T05:04:00 <luke-jr> cluelessperson: it's unlikely they'll get a large number of bitcoin orders initially?
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57 2017-11-24T05:04:27 <luke-jr> cluelessperson: better to just use a list of addresses on the web side, so compromising the server doesn't expose too mcuh
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61 2017-11-24T05:15:15 <cluelessperson> luke-jr: I'd like to build a daemon that watches new incoming blocks for the watched addresses, and discard them
62 2017-11-24T05:15:42 <cluelessperson> Would someone be able to help me understand BIP32, 44 ?
63 2017-11-24T05:15:58 <garit> cluelessperson: there are too many mixers/casino, i think
64 2017-11-24T05:18:33 <cluelessperson> garit: what do you mean? That's not my intention
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137 2017-11-24T12:55:19 <buZz> right, my importing of P2WSH hasnt been fruitfull
138 2017-11-24T12:55:30 <buZz> i'm failing mostly on 'where do i get the redeemscript fromt'
139 2017-11-24T12:55:31 <buZz> -t
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141 2017-11-24T13:00:38 <buZz> seems the same question as https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10016#issuecomment-324690062
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143 2017-11-24T13:05:10 <buZz> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10924 also seems related
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147 2017-11-24T13:11:18 <arubi> buZz, s/fromt/format or s/fromt/from ?
148 2017-11-24T13:11:27 <buZz> the latter :)
149 2017-11-24T13:11:50 <buZz> i can see them in listunspent , but only for ones with active balance
150 2017-11-24T13:11:52 <arubi> hm, don't you have the redeemscript already? you're trying to import it?
151 2017-11-24T13:12:57 <buZz> i can grab a wallet that 'already has them' , plonk it in new daemon, resync, and then not see the transactions which are to/from those addresses
152 2017-11-24T13:13:15 <buZz> but still, i dont know how to get the redeemScript for them
153 2017-11-24T13:13:34 <buZz> dumpprivkey doesnt support them, listunspent doesnt show them
154 2017-11-24T13:13:35 <arubi> if there are any spends, you can get them from there
155 2017-11-24T13:13:43 <buZz> oh hmm
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157 2017-11-24T13:14:00 <buZz> you mean, grab them off the blockchain?
158 2017-11-24T13:14:22 <arubi> yea, getrawtransaction if you're indexing
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161 2017-11-24T13:15:10 <buZz> is it the OP_HASH160 part?
162 2017-11-24T13:15:27 <buZz> oh wait, there are two :P
163 2017-11-24T13:15:43 <buZz> mind if i PM you a txid arubi ?
164 2017-11-24T13:15:57 <arubi> sure go ahead
165 2017-11-24T13:18:37 <buZz> ah
166 2017-11-24T13:18:43 <buZz> this might work, lets see
167 2017-11-24T13:23:06 <buZz> oooo, the 'hex' field under 'validateaddress' shows the redeemscript
168 2017-11-24T13:23:12 <buZz> that isnt very obvious :P
169 2017-11-24T13:23:29 <arubi> yes :)
170 2017-11-24T13:23:42 <arubi> also see jsons here https://github.com/fivepiece/witness-sig to set up signraw
171 2017-11-24T13:23:51 <buZz> "message": "Missing required fields"
172 2017-11-24T13:23:58 <buZz> :( i dont like importmulti a lot
173 2017-11-24T13:25:07 <arubi> it's okay. I was pretty confused at first by it
174 2017-11-24T13:27:15 <buZz> type script ; scriptPubkey xxxx ; redeemscript xxxx <- why isnt this already enough to grab one?
175 2017-11-24T13:28:03 <buZz> maybe its just easier to build a tx to spend them blindly .. hmm
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177 2017-11-24T13:28:59 <arubi> it's not enough without the public key as well
178 2017-11-24T13:29:20 <buZz> isnt scriptPubkey the pubkey?
179 2017-11-24T13:30:08 <arubi> scriptpubkey is the p2sh script, redeemscript is the p2wpkh\p2wsh script and in the p2wpkh script is a hash of the pubkey
180 2017-11-24T13:30:26 <buZz> oh ok, but where do i find that last one?
181 2017-11-24T13:30:53 <buZz> oh
182 2017-11-24T13:30:56 <arubi> it's in validateaddress of the normal p2pkh script
183 2017-11-24T13:31:24 <arubi> or in a previous spend
184 2017-11-24T13:31:43 <buZz> is it in the tx i just PM'd you?
185 2017-11-24T13:32:00 <arubi> yep :)
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187 2017-11-24T13:39:45 <buZz> ok
188 2017-11-24T13:40:21 <buZz> so importmulti with ; timestamp, type script, scriptPubkey, redeemscript and pubkeys (just that one)
189 2017-11-24T13:40:26 <buZz> still comes with "message": "Missing required fields"
190 2017-11-24T13:40:56 <buZz> actually first came with "message": "Internal must be set for hex scriptPubKey"
191 2017-11-24T13:41:03 <buZz> added internal: true
192 2017-11-24T13:42:09 <arubi> oh yea, I got that too
193 2017-11-24T13:42:22 <buZz> guess its still missing something?
194 2017-11-24T13:42:51 <arubi> hm, moment
195 2017-11-24T13:43:04 <arubi> oh you're probably setting pubkey in the same importmulti call right?
196 2017-11-24T13:43:11 <buZz> yeah?
197 2017-11-24T13:43:32 <arubi> I had to use importpubkey independently of the importmulti call
198 2017-11-24T13:43:41 <arubi> finding example..
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200 2017-11-24T13:44:48 <buZz> importpubkey with the pubkey we found earlier gives; The wallet already contains the private key for this address or script
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202 2017-11-24T13:46:48 <arubi> what about 'importaddress <redeemscript> "" false false" then "validateaddress <p2sh addresS>", does validateaddress knows about the hex redeemscript then? also does the wallet have the private key ?
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205 2017-11-24T13:47:57 <buZz> "ismine": false,
206 2017-11-24T13:48:11 <buZz> i'm not sure what private key you mean
207 2017-11-24T13:48:36 <arubi> the private key for the public key from importmulti
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209 2017-11-24T13:48:57 <arubi> but nevermind ismine, see if validateaddress knows about the redeemscript for that p2sh address
210 2017-11-24T13:49:12 <buZz> it doesnt
211 2017-11-24T13:49:34 <buZz> it gives the same scriptPubKey , but no "hex" field
212 2017-11-24T13:49:45 <arubi> alright, 'importaddress <redeemscript> "" false true" this time, and try validateaddr again
213 2017-11-24T13:49:58 <buZz> The wallet already contains the private key for this address or script
214 2017-11-24T13:50:11 <buZz> :P lets move back to pre previous importaddress
215 2017-11-24T13:50:47 <arubi> and validateaddress still doesn't know about the hex?
216 2017-11-24T13:52:43 <buZz> ooo, after a restart of daemon it did fill in the "hex"
217 2017-11-24T13:53:05 <buZz> omgomgomgomg and it shows in listunspent \o/
218 2017-11-24T13:53:07 <buZz> w00p
219 2017-11-24T13:53:09 <arubi> \o/
220 2017-11-24T13:53:23 <buZz> so just the importaddress <redeemscript> seems enough! w00t
221 2017-11-24T13:53:38 <buZz> without importmulti :P
222 2017-11-24T13:53:43 <arubi> and soon we won't even need that :)
223 2017-11-24T13:53:52 <buZz> cant wait :P
224 2017-11-24T13:54:30 <buZz> oh lol
225 2017-11-24T13:54:36 <buZz> -directly- after the 'error' of The wallet already contains the private key for this address or script
226 2017-11-24T13:54:44 <buZz> thats when it pops into listunspent
227 2017-11-24T13:54:59 <arubi> yes that sounds consistent
228 2017-11-24T14:09:59 <buZz> exxxxcellent :)
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234 2017-11-24T14:30:01 <ab0027> Hey.. Anybody online??
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237 2017-11-24T14:36:06 <buZz> always
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