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5 2017-12-24T00:12:54 <eck> how do i enable segwit for a regtest bitcoind instance
6 2017-12-24T00:13:51 <eck> when i use the addwitnessaddress rpc with my regtest node i get an error "Segregated witness not enabled on network"
7 2017-12-24T00:14:39 <eck> oh it appears i just needed to generate more blocks
8 2017-12-24T00:14:42 <eck> got it now
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42 2017-12-24T03:29:49 <jb55> updated my bitcoin unit calculator: https://github.com/jb55/bcalc I've expanded the grammer so it can do stuff like: 'bcalc 100 mbtc + 300 bits in btc' -> 0.1003 BTC
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51 2017-12-24T04:27:14 <eck> what is the vsize in decoderawtransaction
52 2017-12-24T04:27:28 <eck> i thought it was block weight, but in that case i would have expected it to be at least as large as size
53 2017-12-24T04:34:19 <eck> i think i get it now
54 2017-12-24T04:34:22 <eck> src/core_write.cpp: entry.pushKV("vsize", (GetTransactionWeight(tx) + WITNESS_SCALE_FACTOR - 1) / WITNESS_SCALE_FACTOR);
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58 2017-12-24T04:58:54 <adiabat> eck: vsize is just weight / 4
59 2017-12-24T04:59:10 <adiabat> which is kindof confusing that both appear in different places
60 2017-12-24T05:03:06 <eck> the extra + 3 term was throwing me off but i realize now it's to force the value to be rounded up to the next integer
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62 2017-12-24T05:08:48 <eck> how do you create a native (not embedded within p2sh) p2wpkh address with bitcoin core?
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82 2017-12-24T07:02:24 <DSidH> eck: I am not an expert on segwit but I think its not possible to have native (non-P2SH) segwit address.
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84 2017-12-24T07:04:59 <eck> they're in bip141: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0141.mediawiki#P2WPKH
85 2017-12-24T07:05:16 <eck> but it looks like there's only human-readable syntax for them defined in bech32
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89 2017-12-24T07:21:44 <DSidH> yes I have not seen much about non P2SH P2WKH addresses
90 2017-12-24T07:22:40 <DSidH> quick question: Even if I start using segwit, I won't see much difference in tx confirmation time if rest of the network is not using it.. Right?
91 2017-12-24T07:22:52 <eck> it will not affect tx confirmation time at all
92 2017-12-24T07:23:56 <eck> from a miner's pov the best thing to do is to include the most profitable transactions, whether they are segwit or not
93 2017-12-24T07:24:27 <DSidH> yup but since the segwit tx will be smaller, it will be equivalent to a
94 2017-12-24T07:24:31 <DSidH> "high fee" normal tx
95 2017-12-24T07:25:13 <DSidH> unless the miner thinks that even having extra witness payload is "not profitable"
96 2017-12-24T07:26:11 <eck> also note, you only get the lower block weight if you're spending *from* a sw address
97 2017-12-24T07:29:45 <DSidH> yup, and that too a pure segwit tx, since mixed inputs don't give as much benefit
98 2017-12-24T07:33:51 <DSidH> I am having trouble understanding the RFC6979 for deterministic generation of k values for ECDSA
99 2017-12-24T07:34:16 <DSidH> Is there a dummies version of it? What do others use for deterministic k values?
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101 2017-12-24T07:34:57 <DSidH> this is the document: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6979
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104 2017-12-24T07:35:35 <arubi> what are you not understanding, it's pretty much a bunch of hmac-sha512
105 2017-12-24T07:35:50 <DSidH> I got lost in various bit conversions
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107 2017-12-24T07:36:44 <DSidH> and the examples do not use Secp256k1 so I am not able to test the algorithm
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109 2017-12-24T07:36:58 <DSidH> are there any test vectors for Secp256k1 for this algorithm?
110 2017-12-24T07:37:24 <arubi> https://github.com/fivepiece/btc-bash-ng/blob/master/ecdsa/rfc6979.sh and https://github.com/fivepiece/btc-bash-ng/blob/master/ecdsa/.tests/test_rfc6979.sh
111 2017-12-24T07:37:29 <DSidH> (examples in the rfc use ansix9t163k1)
112 2017-12-24T07:38:00 <arubi> hmac itself is https://github.com/fivepiece/btc-bash-ng/blob/master/hash/hmac.sh
113 2017-12-24T07:38:29 <DSidH> arubi: thanks.. these should help
114 2017-12-24T07:38:32 <arubi> but -- I'm a hobbyist, this is definitely not something you should use on actual money :)
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116 2017-12-24T07:41:54 <DSidH> arubi: you mean the test vectors may not be correct or the RFC itself may not be secure ?
117 2017-12-24T07:41:56 <arubi> s/hmac-sha512/hmac-sha256/ . got confused with bip32
118 2017-12-24T07:42:13 <arubi> the test vectors are correct, this code is consistent with what core gets for k
119 2017-12-24T07:42:26 <arubi> but maybe I got some edge case wrong, not sure. it's hard to know
120 2017-12-24T07:48:37 <DSidH> and does core also use RFC6979 ?
121 2017-12-24T07:49:30 <echeveria> the underlying crypto library does.
122 2017-12-24T07:52:19 <arubi> right, the code is in libsecp256k1
123 2017-12-24T07:52:20 <DSidH> ok so I think Im on the right track. I was otherwise thinking of writing a custom algorithm for k = Hash(x, h)
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125 2017-12-24T07:53:44 <arubi> if it's just for testnet then it's fine, but there has to be a good reason for a simple hash(x,h) not being used
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127 2017-12-24T08:04:28 <DSidH> its currently testnet but the goal is to use in mainnet
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130 2017-12-24T08:22:33 <arubi> ah, alright. probably best to use the standard practices then
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199 2017-12-24T14:50:25 <DSidH> eck: https://bitcoincore.org/en/segwit_wallet_dev/ based on this the only examples are P2SH-P2WPKH.
200 2017-12-24T14:51:36 <DSidH> I mean the others don't seem to be that popular
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205 2017-12-24T15:09:48 <arubi> what else are you looking for DSidH ?
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224 2017-12-24T16:10:01 <DSidH> arubi: I am good for now. Just need to test my RFC implementation.
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226 2017-12-24T16:10:19 <arubi> cool DSidH
227 2017-12-24T16:11:00 <DSidH> arubi: btw you saved me several days ot trial and error
228 2017-12-24T16:11:19 <arubi> yw :)
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