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  2 2018-01-21T00:13:21  <Barrett> so basically to create a bare bone colored coin I can just create a custom CScript
  3 2018-01-21T00:13:37  <Barrett> and use it to encode/decode in my custom client
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 42 2018-01-21T03:00:57  <mahamoti> does anyone know what the first bitcoin block was that had a real transaction in it?
 43 2018-01-21T03:05:15  <mahamoti> i could find it myself if there was a block explorer that allowed me to lookup a block by its height on the mainchain..
 44 2018-01-21T03:05:52  <mahamoti> in but blockexplorer.com i can only click "next block" which prevents me from doing a binary search
 45 2018-01-21T03:07:24  <mahamoti> oh, I found it...block #181
 46 2018-01-21T03:07:30  <mahamoti> https://blockexplorer.com/block/00000000dc55860c8a29c58d45209318fa9e9dc2c1833a7226d86bc465afc6e5
 47 2018-01-21T03:10:42  <mahamoti> this is actually really confusing, because in all previous blocks, there has only been 1 transaction (block reward of 50).  however, in block 181 there is a transaction sending 40 from an "unparsed address"
 48 2018-01-21T03:11:01  <mahamoti> how can there be an unparsed address that only contains 40 btc, if all previous transactions were sending 50 btc to unique addresses
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 64 2018-01-21T05:06:46  <arubi> mahamoti, block 170 is the first.  the transaction in 181 redeems 40 btc from the output that paid to it in block 170
 65 2018-01-21T05:08:25  <arubi> not sure about the "unparsed" part.  you can use smartbit, it's a much better explorer https://www.smartbit.com.au/block/170
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 68 2018-01-21T05:22:38  <arubi> oh also, these transactions aren't really using p2pkh.  they're using p2pk, so the addresses there are actually wrong
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 73 2018-01-21T05:54:49  <Randolf> arubi:  That's a lot faster than blockchain.info.  I like it.
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180 2018-01-21T14:38:46  <lopp> hi all, I'm looking to collect more links to add to the developer tools section of http://lopp.net/bitcoin.html - are there any you recommend that aren't already listed there or on https://github.com/igorbarinov/awesome-bitcoin ?
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219 2018-01-21T18:10:03  <Randolf> lopp:  If it's helpful, please feel free to add a link to this article I wrote last month, which outlines two important rules for handling Private Keys (perhaps it's helpful to open source wallet software developers who want their software to have elements of integrity so as to be "trusted"):
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221 2018-01-21T18:10:53  <arubi> the link is cut off Randolf
222 2018-01-21T18:11:06  <Randolf> https://www.randolfrichardson.com/technology/currencies/rules.pl
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261 2018-01-21T20:45:49  <pincode> Hi,Folks! I have some questions about bitcoin dev. I develop web application and I want to understand how to generate bitcoin wallets for users and manage it?
262 2018-01-21T20:46:41  <pincode> I have an idea use blockchain.info api for it, but I think I can use it on my side without third-party api, can you explain how can I do this?
263 2018-01-21T20:47:40  <pincode> Hey, can you help me anybody?
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267 2018-01-21T21:01:26  <Randolf> Why rely on a dubious third party like BlockChain.info when you can just run your own node and query that directly?
268 2018-01-21T21:03:00  <pincode> How many gigabytes I need for storing full-node on my server for btc as an example?
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292 2018-01-21T22:31:56  <Randolf> Present, Bitcoin is approx. 500 MBs (0.5 GBs).  But that's expected to continue to grow over time.
293 2018-01-21T22:32:24  <Randolf> So, you'll probably want to provision at least 1 or 2 TBs.  Given the low cost of disk space, I'd get 2 TBs now.
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296 2018-01-21T22:38:14  <contrapumpkin> Randolf: 500MB?
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301 2018-01-21T22:58:43  <Randolf> Sorry, less than 200 MBs.  I did that from memory and thought wrongly.
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305 2018-01-21T23:02:20  <contrapumpkin> Randolf: I'm still confused. The blocks for my full node are somewhere between 150GB and 200
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307 2018-01-21T23:08:08  <Randolf> All the data that your Bitcoin node needs to store is somewhre in the ballpark of 158 GBs to 200 GBs.
308 2018-01-21T23:08:25  <Randolf> For your project, you'll want to stay away from pruning.
309 2018-01-21T23:08:30  <contrapumpkin> oh, you talking about RAM usage for the UTXOs?
310 2018-01-21T23:08:36  <Randolf> Disk space.
311 2018-01-21T23:08:43  <Randolf> That's why I'm talking about hard drives.
312 2018-01-21T23:08:51  <contrapumpkin> yeah but you're also saying 500MB
313 2018-01-21T23:09:09  <Randolf> So?  I specified disk space.
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316 2018-01-21T23:10:55  <Randolf> In your question, you didn't specify whether you were asking about RAM or disk space, so I assumed disk space because that's what people are usually referring to when they don't specify RAM.
317 2018-01-21T23:11:19  <contrapumpkin> [16:03:00]  <pincode>	How many gigabytes I need for storing full-node on my server for btc as an example?
318 2018-01-21T23:11:28  <contrapumpkin> that's not my question
319 2018-01-21T23:12:13  <contrapumpkin> and the answer is in the ballpark of 170GB
320 2018-01-21T23:12:17  <Randolf> Oh, that's right.  I wasn't paying attention to the handles.  Thank you.  However, I still assumed the discussion was about disk space.
321 2018-01-21T23:12:35  <Randolf> So, are you thinking that you need 170 GBs of disk space, or 170 GBs of RAM?
322 2018-01-21T23:12:42  <contrapumpkin> 170GB of disk space
323 2018-01-21T23:12:50  <Randolf> At this time, I agree.
324 2018-01-21T23:12:51  <contrapumpkin> today
325 2018-01-21T23:12:53  <contrapumpkin> yes
326 2018-01-21T23:12:58  <contrapumpkin> so I don't understand what your 500MB was measuring above
327 2018-01-21T23:13:11  <Randolf> I haven't run my copy of bitcoind recently, so I didn't know the exact size.
328 2018-01-21T23:13:45  <Randolf> I already clarified that:  [14:58:42] <Randolf> Sorry, less than 200 MBs.  I did that from memory and thought wrongly.
329 2018-01-21T23:14:05  <Randolf> So, if you want to argue about 500 MBs, I won't be participating.
330 2018-01-21T23:14:26  <contrapumpkin> not arguing, just trying to understand
331 2018-01-21T23:14:35  <Randolf> Okay.  Well, I clarified already.
332 2018-01-21T23:14:37  <contrapumpkin> because your correction after that was again in MB, rather than GB
333 2018-01-21T23:14:55  <Randolf> Yeah, thanks.  I meant GBs.
334 2018-01-21T23:14:58  <contrapumpkin> okay cool
335 2018-01-21T23:15:00  <Randolf> I'm not feeling well today.
336 2018-01-21T23:15:08  <contrapumpkin> didn't mean to be argumentative, was just trying to figure out if I was missing somehting
337 2018-01-21T23:15:11  <Randolf> Kids were sick all day yestreday, and a bit the day before.
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339 2018-01-21T23:15:21  <Randolf> Sorry, I'm just a bit touchy because I was dealing with idiots in a different channel.
340 2018-01-21T23:15:28  <Randolf> You're being clear, and I appreciate that.
341 2018-01-21T23:15:49  <Randolf> Wow, what a disaster.  Sorry about the confusion.
342 2018-01-21T23:15:57  <Randolf> ...and thanks, contrapumpkin, for catching this.
343 2018-01-21T23:16:03  <Randolf> contrapumpkin++
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