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290 2018-05-05T18:34:09 <OS-27110> anyone help me with regtest mode?
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292 2018-05-05T18:34:58 <arubi> just ask OS-27110
293 2018-05-05T18:35:01 <OS-27110> i have 2 laptops each with an instance of bitcoind running on each
294 2018-05-05T18:35:28 <OS-27110> i created the bitcoin.conf file on both
295 2018-05-05T18:35:37 <OS-27110> both are now running a a service
296 2018-05-05T18:35:39 <OS-27110> however
297 2018-05-05T18:35:52 <OS-27110> i was under the impression both were seperate nodes, but theyre not
298 2018-05-05T18:36:12 <OS-27110> if i generate coins on 1, the other laptop also has the same coins now
299 2018-05-05T18:36:30 <arubi> you probably copied wallet.dat over...?
300 2018-05-05T18:36:37 <OS-27110> no , not at all
301 2018-05-05T18:36:56 <arubi> well, I'm running regtest with 4 nodes on a single pc here, this doesn't ever happen
302 2018-05-05T18:37:04 <OS-27110> ok
303 2018-05-05T18:37:08 <OS-27110> ill paste my config
304 2018-05-05T18:38:48 <OS-27110> https://pastebin.com/B6TWFFZc
305 2018-05-05T18:39:45 <arubi> rpcconnect should only connect to your local node
306 2018-05-05T18:39:47 <arubi> not all of them
307 2018-05-05T18:40:02 <OS-27110> ok
308 2018-05-05T18:40:05 <arubi> so you're probably sending rpc commands to the remote node
309 2018-05-05T18:40:13 <OS-27110> oh i see
310 2018-05-05T18:40:15 <OS-27110> good shout
311 2018-05-05T18:40:19 <OS-27110> ill be back in a sec
312 2018-05-05T18:40:22 <OS-27110> thanks aruba
313 2018-05-05T18:40:23 <arubi> k
314 2018-05-05T18:40:26 <arubi> heh
315 2018-05-05T18:40:26 <OS-27110> arubi
316 2018-05-05T18:40:29 <arubi> yea
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318 2018-05-05T18:41:07 <OS-27110> btw the pass is not the real pass for rpc :)
319 2018-05-05T18:41:22 <arubi> oh man, and there I though I'm gonna be regtest rich :P
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323 2018-05-05T18:50:35 <OS-27110> arubi, thank you for that. all sorted
324 2018-05-05T18:50:42 <arubi> cheers
325 2018-05-05T18:50:57 <OS-27110> how far are you into learning?
326 2018-05-05T18:51:14 <arubi> well, the rabbit hole is pretty deep
327 2018-05-05T18:51:26 <OS-27110> tell me about it...
328 2018-05-05T18:51:44 <arubi> you'll see. there's always "this other thing" that you have to learn
329 2018-05-05T18:51:47 <OS-27110> are you sniffing packets etc to figure stuff out?
330 2018-05-05T18:51:50 <OS-27110> or what?
331 2018-05-05T18:52:12 <arubi> nah, I'm not too interested in the p2p stuff. mostly into the math and bitcoin script
332 2018-05-05T18:52:19 <OS-27110> ok fair enough
333 2018-05-05T18:53:47 <OS-27110> you code also?
334 2018-05-05T18:54:20 <arubi> yea a bit. I have my own projects, nothing major
335 2018-05-05T18:54:29 <OS-27110> nice
336 2018-05-05T18:55:31 <arubi> if you're interested in p2p things, you can also enable debugging for that in your .conf. might be interesting for you
337 2018-05-05T18:56:30 <OS-27110> very good
338 2018-05-05T18:56:54 <OS-27110> i have the digital signature part understood so far and i am onto the transaction part
339 2018-05-05T18:57:25 <OS-27110> the "there are no coins has me a little perplexed"
340 2018-05-05T18:57:38 <arubi> well there are coins, just no balances
341 2018-05-05T18:58:55 <arubi> a coin means a transaction output. a coin that is valid to be spent is an unspent transaction output, or just utxo
342 2018-05-05T18:59:38 <OS-27110> i get the unspent output and inputs
343 2018-05-05T19:00:07 <OS-27110> i just watched a video recently where Andreas said after 3 years he finds out there are no coins really
344 2018-05-05T19:00:20 <OS-27110> no idea what hes on about now
345 2018-05-05T19:00:21 <OS-27110> ha
346 2018-05-05T19:00:26 <arubi> I guess andreas is wrong :)
347 2018-05-05T19:00:47 <OS-27110> hes a brilliant man. ya ofcourse
348 2018-05-05T19:01:20 <arubi> I'll take your word. I never looked into his stuff
349 2018-05-05T19:01:32 <OS-27110> do you have an idea what data gets signed when you are sending an output to someone?
350 2018-05-05T19:01:36 <OS-27110> as in
351 2018-05-05T19:01:54 <arubi> see here : http://enetium.com/resources/Bitcoin.pdf
352 2018-05-05T19:01:56 <OS-27110> when you digitally sign something and the other person wants to know you actually own the data
353 2018-05-05T19:02:03 <arubi> this is an excellent document
354 2018-05-05T19:02:19 <OS-27110> ive the 2 books he already open here, mastering bitcoin
355 2018-05-05T19:02:28 <OS-27110> does this one go deep?
356 2018-05-05T19:02:29 <arubi> close those, open that one :)
357 2018-05-05T19:02:31 <arubi> yes
358 2018-05-05T19:02:36 <OS-27110> roger that
359 2018-05-05T19:02:39 <OS-27110> checking
360 2018-05-05T19:03:05 <arubi> it's not covering segwit, but once you understand what's there, segwit is really simple
361 2018-05-05T19:05:14 <arubi> page 29-34 inclusive
362 2018-05-05T19:05:34 <AndyS2> the bitcoind sourcecode has a coin datastructure/object
363 2018-05-05T19:05:40 <AndyS2> at least some stuff is named like it
364 2018-05-05T19:05:52 <AndyS2> I'm not entirely sure what a coin was again, but I think it was an output
365 2018-05-05T19:06:20 <OS-27110> you been very helpful
366 2018-05-05T19:06:31 <OS-27110> have it open now and it looks great, solid info
367 2018-05-05T19:06:52 <OS-27110> what i want to do is actually create an append only ledger as simply as possible
368 2018-05-05T19:07:02 <OS-27110> im kinda of working backwards by learning how bitcoin works
369 2018-05-05T19:07:07 <AndyS2> when I stumbled upon it, I remember thinking that the naming is off a bit. maybe coin was used to refer to transactions or outputs that the wallet knows about?
370 2018-05-05T19:07:10 <OS-27110> not sure if thats a good idea or not though
371 2018-05-05T19:07:21 <OS-27110> perhaps
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373 2018-05-05T19:07:35 <arubi> AndyS2, a coin is just an output
374 2018-05-05T19:07:40 <OS-27110> i do know that Andreas said that all the words the engineers used are stupid
375 2018-05-05T19:07:49 <OS-27110> wallet doesn't hold coins
376 2018-05-05T19:07:54 <OS-27110> etc
377 2018-05-05T19:09:00 <arubi> a wallet is a database that holds keys and coins, not sure what's stupid about the engineering terms
378 2018-05-05T19:09:20 <OS-27110> he said they should describe what the are
379 2018-05-05T19:09:31 <OS-27110> like desktop behaves like a desktop
380 2018-05-05T19:09:39 <OS-27110> wallet holds no coins
381 2018-05-05T19:09:43 <OS-27110> just keychain
382 2018-05-05T19:09:46 <OS-27110> or something
383 2018-05-05T19:09:56 <arubi> it's not just a keychain. you need to know which coins are yours
384 2018-05-05T19:10:13 <OS-27110> its amazing
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386 2018-05-05T19:11:42 <OS-27110> i think the wallet listens for what address you have an if it spots that in the blockchain it keeps track of it
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389 2018-05-05T19:11:59 <arubi> right, not addresses really but scripts
390 2018-05-05T19:12:08 <OS-27110> ok scripts is new to me
391 2018-05-05T19:12:19 <OS-27110> i heard it but never read into it yet
392 2018-05-05T19:12:27 <arubi> scriptpubkeys. some of these scripts have address types, some don't
393 2018-05-05T19:12:35 <OS-27110> ok
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