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102 2019-09-07T16:14:10  <YoungCEO> Hello!
103 2019-09-07T16:15:32  <YoungCEO> https://imgur.com/4TLQHC7
104 2019-09-07T16:15:45  <YoungCEO> ^ I can't restore the wallet from the seed, how important `creationtime`?
105 2019-09-07T16:18:17  <YoungCEO> I created a new wallet from Electrum client, and got the seed code
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110 2019-09-07T16:24:25  <YoungCEO> =(
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117 2019-09-07T17:59:50  <ghost43> YoungCEO: more context needed
118 2019-09-07T18:00:10  <YoungCEO> Sorry @ghost43
119 2019-09-07T18:00:34  <YoungCEO> So what I am trying to do is, using BitcoinJ to restore the wallet.
120 2019-09-07T18:00:38  <YoungCEO> Here is what I did:
121 2019-09-07T18:00:45  <YoungCEO> 1. Create a new wallet in Electrum client
122 2019-09-07T18:00:55  <YoungCEO> 2. Save the seed words
123 2019-09-07T18:01:23  <YoungCEO> 3. Using the example code: https://github.com/bitcoinj/bitcoinj/blob/master/examples/src/main/java/org/bitcoinj/examples/RestoreFromSeed.java, try to restore the wallet from the seed words
124 2019-09-07T18:01:31  <YoungCEO> 4. But it always show 0 balance
125 2019-09-07T18:02:47  <YoungCEO> So in the example (https://imgur.com/4TLQHC7), the `creationtime` value is fixed, but I set it as `System.currentTimeMillis()`
126 2019-09-07T18:02:57  <YoungCEO> Does it matter?
127 2019-09-07T18:03:12  <YoungCEO> I can't figure out why the balance is showing 0
128 2019-09-07T18:03:43  <YoungCEO> And I use Segwit wallet in Client, so I changed `P2PKH` to `P2WPKH`
129 2019-09-07T18:04:01  <ghost43> based on the comments, bitcoinj is using bip39
130 2019-09-07T18:04:04  <YoungCEO> Please help this poor noob
131 2019-09-07T18:04:10  <YoungCEO> Okay
132 2019-09-07T18:04:15  <ghost43> electrum does not generate bip39 seeds (though it can restore them)
133 2019-09-07T18:04:23  <YoungCEO> Oh.
134 2019-09-07T18:04:42  <ghost43> I guess bitcoinj must not be validating the checksum then of bip39
135 2019-09-07T18:04:59  <ghost43> because the seed generated by electrum should fail that checksum
136 2019-09-07T18:05:09  <YoungCEO> I see
137 2019-09-07T18:05:13  <ghost43> (although it's a hilariously weak checksum, so could have been lucky)
138 2019-09-07T18:05:16  <YoungCEO> So if I use BIP39 seed, it would work
139 2019-09-07T18:05:29  <ghost43> idk but I would try that first
140 2019-09-07T18:05:36  <YoungCEO> Thank you ghost43 :D
141 2019-09-07T18:13:40  <YoungCEO> IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!
142 2019-09-07T18:13:48  <YoungCEO> AHHHHH I AM SO HAPPY, Thank you ghost43
143 2019-09-07T18:13:56  <YoungCEO> I didn't know the seed words can make difference!!!
144 2019-09-07T18:15:03  <ghost43> yeah seed words are a mess
145 2019-09-07T18:15:13  <ghost43> there are a few standards, all of them with serious issues
146 2019-09-07T18:15:35  <YoungCEO> You saved my day :)
147 2019-09-07T18:17:43  <YoungCEO> ghost43, do you happen to know how to check derivation path in Electrum?
148 2019-09-07T18:18:00  <YoungCEO> https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/9krjam/how_to_view_derivation_path/
149 2019-09-07T18:18:13  <YoungCEO> ^ this link says `wallet.keystore.derivation` would work, but it's not working
150 2019-09-07T18:18:36  <YoungCEO> Electrum just says `Traceback (most recent call last):`
151 2019-09-07T18:22:18  <ghost43> YoungCEO: what kind of seed/wallet do you have in electrum?
152 2019-09-07T18:22:40  <YoungCEO> I used `https://iancoleman.io/bip39/`
153 2019-09-07T18:23:21  <ghost43> when you restore from that seed in electrum, there is a screen/dialog where you can choose the derivation
154 2019-09-07T18:23:24  <ghost43> and the script type
155 2019-09-07T18:23:33  <YoungCEO> Right - but after creating a wallet, can I check again?
156 2019-09-07T18:24:02  <ghost43> no, it's not stored (except for hw wallets)
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159 2019-09-07T18:37:03  <YoungCEO> I see, thanks
160 2019-09-07T18:38:47  <YoungCEO> Ha, it's not showing balance again
161 2019-09-07T18:38:51  <YoungCEO> With the same code
162 2019-09-07T18:39:02  <YoungCEO> I can't use BitcoinJ
163 2019-09-07T18:39:04  <YoungCEO> Too unstable
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183 2019-09-07T19:08:43  <YoungCEO> Nevermind, figured out, the creation time is important..lol
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