12019-12-10T00:16:56 <ZmnSCPxj> t-bast-official: With non-32-byte SegWit v1 we *could* support a Taproot-like construction where the keypath spend has tagged pubkeys.
22019-12-10T00:17:44 <ZmnSCPxj> t-bast-official: But as you noted, this loses privacy, as it is now explicit output tagging as it allows anyone to see the enablement of `SIGHASH_NOINPUT`
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302019-12-10T10:49:17 <ZmnSCPxj> The annex currently has absolutely no format other than starting with 0x50, I guess to maximize the possible future extensibility of the annex?
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322019-12-10T10:55:57 <aj> ZmnSCPxj: and keep the current spec as simple as possible
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572019-12-10T16:41:00 <pinheadmz> sipa: what is the source of the secp256k1 commits that were squashed in sipa/taproot?
582019-12-10T16:41:03 <pinheadmz> for example: 0a3a7f9b6c Add xonly_pubkeys which are serialized as 32 byte and whose Y coordinate is a quadratic residue
592019-12-10T16:41:38 <pinheadmz> I can't find the original commit in either bitcoin-core/secp256k1 or ElementsProject/secp256k1-zkp
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652019-12-10T18:07:28 <nickler> pinheadmz: https://github.com/jonasnick/secp256k1-zkp/commits/schnorrsig-updates-backup5
662019-12-10T18:18:28 <pinheadmz> ty :-)
672019-12-10T18:22:07 <pinheadmz> nickler: actually, still not sure exactly where they are. See here:
682019-12-10T18:22:08 <pinheadmz> https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin/commit/d5cd9db7a3d71d55c4eb7f9170e0ae1cde12390e
692019-12-10T18:22:27 <pinheadmz> 0c774d89e6 Merge bitcoin#688: Fix ASM setting in travis <-- last commit from bitcoin-core/secp256k1
702019-12-10T18:23:26 <pinheadmz> 12 or so commits on top of that one I'm trying to find
712019-12-10T18:23:59 <nickler> The "Fix ASM settings" commit is in libsecp master. Which one exactly are you looking for?
722019-12-10T18:24:22 <pinheadmz> correct, all the commits on top
732019-12-10T18:24:27 <pinheadmz> 0a3a7f9b6c Add xonly_pubkeys which are serialized as 32 byte and whose Y coordinate is a quadratic residue
742019-12-10T18:24:31 <pinheadmz> through
752019-12-10T18:24:34 <pinheadmz> c86c6cff66 Fixup rename
762019-12-10T18:30:44 <nickler> pinheadmz: https://github.com/jonasnick/secp256k1/commits/schnorrsig-backup38 should have the exact same commits (except "Fixup rename")
772019-12-10T18:31:16 <pinheadmz> a ha!!! ok thanks :-)
782019-12-10T18:32:28 <nickler> would have accounted for them better if I had known that they would be useful to someone
792019-12-10T18:33:59 <pinheadmz> no worries, and I know nothings final yet either. We vendor secp in bcoin, but its already been pulled in and used for other schnorr projects with 33 byte pubkeys etc. So Im trying to figure out how best to support "both versions" of schnorr. being able to track git branches is helpful
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832019-12-10T19:04:22 <sipa> oops
842019-12-10T19:04:35 <sipa> did i disappear?
852019-12-10T19:06:13 <fjahr> sipa: looks like it, right after your last message
862019-12-10T19:07:05 <sipa> any questions so far?
872019-12-10T19:08:27 <fjahr> meeting has not started yet, no messages so far
882019-12-10T19:09:56 <aj> #startmeeting
892019-12-10T19:09:56 <lightningbot> Meeting started Tue Dec 10 19:09:56 2019 UTC. The chair is aj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
902019-12-10T19:09:56 <lightningbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
912019-12-10T19:10:09 <sipa> hi
922019-12-10T19:10:18 <fjahr> hi
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972019-12-10T19:24:57 <nothingmuch> hi
982019-12-10T19:25:22 <gmaxwell> Is taproot activated yet?
992019-12-10T19:26:04 <sipa> soon(tm)
1002019-12-10T19:33:02 <aj> are we talking about activation methods before it activates? :)
1012019-12-10T19:33:48 <sipa> i'm sure some people will
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1032019-12-10T20:12:40 <instagibbs> i think we honestly covered the extension hooks in the last weeks quite a bit
1042019-12-10T20:18:03 <aj> #endmeeting
1052019-12-10T20:18:03 <lightningbot> Meeting ended Tue Dec 10 20:18:03 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
1062019-12-10T20:18:03 <lightningbot> Minutes: http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/taproot-bip-review/2019/taproot-bip-review.2019-12-10-19.09.html
1072019-12-10T20:18:03 <lightningbot> Minutes (text): http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/taproot-bip-review/2019/taproot-bip-review.2019-12-10-19.09.txt
1082019-12-10T20:18:03 <lightningbot> Log: http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/taproot-bip-review/2019/taproot-bip-review.2019-12-10-19.09.log.html
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